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Post by TexasEd on Apr 2, 2012 10:29:48 GMT -5
I have been cleaning up the engine bay getting ready to sand off the rust and paint it. On the passenger side I removed the starter solenoid and the voltage regulator then pulled the wiring harnesses trough the radiator support to the area above the valance to get it out of the way.  On the driver side I removed the washer fluid reservoir. I found a small rust hole behind the reservoir where the bottom of the reservoir touched the metal.  Since I plan on working in the engine bay for a while I decided to remove the grill and put it on a shelf for safe keeping. I sacrificed the plastic retaining pieces. I don't know if there is a good way to get them out so you can re-use them, but at the time I couldn't figure it out and they must be readily available. My grill is not painted but I'll look into the correct color and paint it before I reinstall. Then I started on the messy job of getting the AC compressor out of the way and the Power Steering pump off. The majority of my PS fluid leaks are obviously coming from the pump. The brackets are interesting because these two parts kind of have a nested bracket system and share some of the same mounting points. One of the bolts goes into the water pump and as soon as I removed that one the water pump's leak got worse.  I had to remove the Monte Carlo bar to make room to move the compressor out of the way without disconnecting the lines. After I got them out the amount of caked on PS fluid really jumped out at me. I'll have to put the car back on the ground and push it to the driveway to pressure wash it off. I need to take a picture of the original power steering pump in the sun since there seems to be so much discussion about what color they are supposed to be. In my garage it seems to be a metallic robin's egg color. In the last picture you can see how much caked on PS fluid is everywhere. You can also see that my balancer is all rust colored and I'll have to clean that up as well.  |
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Post by LukeWarm on Apr 2, 2012 11:32:13 GMT -5
Ah yes....the joys of working on an old car with 40 years of gunk caked on it. One thing you've probably discovered by now - if it can leak, it probably does.
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Post by TexasEd on Apr 2, 2012 13:44:35 GMT -5
Leaks Fixed so far:
- Transmission
- Oil
In progress:
- Power Steering
- Gas from Carburetor
- Water pump
- Thermostat
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Post by TexasEd on Apr 3, 2012 13:20:14 GMT -5
I pulled off the driver side front wheel and got under the car to inspect the rest of the power steering stuff.
There is another leak from the power ram/cylinder line fittings and I'm missing the arched part of the hose support bracket with the rubber insulator. The top part of the bracket is there but bent in a funny way.
I'm ordered a chockostang rebuild kit for everything and all new hoses. Yay, I get to take stuff apart.
Getting the alternator seems to be practically impossible in my car. The long bolt that goes through the spacer is rusted into the front sleeve of the alternator and I don't want to hammer it out because I could damage the radiator. I started trying to get the bracket completely off so that it would all come out together but the bolts are too far behind the water pump pulley. Looks like I need to rent a pulley puller and get that water pump pulley off.
I think I diagnosed my coolant leak to the thermostat housing. I'll have to replace the thermostat and put a new gasket on it. If you look around the mating surface you can see a ton of excess black RTV seeping out from the seam. I read you have to check the housing for being true and possibly do some light sanding to remove any warping.
I am nervous about the water pump leaking too. I have an original cast iron housing with the C8 casting code and RH inlet. I suspect that it could just be the gasket is leaking, the pulley does not have a lot of side to side play.
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Post by TexasEd on May 7, 2012 10:48:24 GMT -5
Almost all of my parts are in now. Here are my projects, let me know if anyone has an interest in something if you want to try and work on it together. It will be my first time to do any of these items so let me know if you have any tips.
1. Rebuild Carburetor
2. Rebuild all power steering equipment
----Have to use pittman arm puller on power cylinder and idler arm and pull the pulley on the pump first - Haven't figured those parts out yet
3. Replace gas tank and fuel gauge sender
4. Inspect heater core - From my brother's reports the heater did not work I don't know if the core is clogged or if the fan is out.
5. replace thermostat, water pump and all hoses (except heater hoses)
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Post by 65stang on May 7, 2012 11:57:21 GMT -5
Why would you need a pulley puller for the water pump?
If you put a new heater core in it, I'd replace those hoses too.
The fuel tank replacement may sound difficult, but its not that bad to do.
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Post by TexasEd on May 7, 2012 12:16:35 GMT -5
I need the pulley puller for the power steering pump.
On the heater core that was my thought. I don't know how to check the core yet, but if I change it out I'll replace the hoses at the same time.
The gas tank replacement will hopefully be the easiest thing on my list.
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Post by gm4ever on May 7, 2012 15:54:08 GMT -5
I think Autozone rents the puller you need.
Love reading along! Keeps the updates coming!
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Post by TexasEd on May 7, 2012 16:03:39 GMT -5
I already bought the tie rod/Pittman puller and pulley puller.
What I really need is someone to call me a dummy, drink my beer, and keep me from breaking stuff as I go.
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Post by sYc_Nova on May 8, 2012 0:55:58 GMT -5
Is there a sign up sheet for this somewhere? : )
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Post by agshelby on May 8, 2012 8:01:24 GMT -5
An auto parts store or repair shop can pull your pulley sand replace it on the new pump in just a few minutes.
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Post by TexasEd on May 8, 2012 9:50:22 GMT -5
Finally got the power steering cylinder/ram and control valve off last night. The cylinder looks boogered. It has some flat spots on it probably from ground clearance and the stud that goes into the center link is ruined so I'll send the rebuild kit for that part back and order a replacement. Control valve to be rebuilt  Bad bushing on the center link. It's the same on both sides.  Tie rod end looks ok  Sway bar bushing needs to be replaced  |
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Post by gm4ever on May 10, 2012 9:07:23 GMT -5
I totally rebuilt the front suspension on my Roadmaster in January (flush!) and found really great prices at Rock Auto. They beat the local places by a good amount. Just a tip.
Enjoying watching your progress!
-Mike
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Post by EP429 on May 10, 2012 11:30:10 GMT -5
I already bought the tie rod/Pittman puller and pulley puller. What I really need is someone to call me a dummy, drink my beer, and keep me from breaking stuff as I go. If you ever get the itch, post up a new thread on here to let everyone know. I had lots of very helpful hands show up for my brake swap! I can make some room in my schedule on Mondays/Tuesdays, rest of the week is pretty shot |
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Post by TexasEd on May 16, 2012 11:11:46 GMT -5
Well it looks like I'll be doing the suspension at the same time. I didn't plan to, but the bushings and joints look too bad in places to leave alone.
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Post by TexasEd on Apr 25, 2013 18:12:26 GMT -5
I'm back.
I had to take a break from working on my car due to my dad's health issues and eventual death being too big of a distraction. I've started cleaning up more parts and getting ready to start putting the engine back together. I still haven't decided what to do about the AC unit though, it doesn't work and may just pull it out temporarily.
Anyone interested in drinking my beer and calling me names while you supervise my work let me know.
I still need some help welding a few very small spots on the trunk and engine bay before I put in the new gas tank.
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Post by sYc_Nova on Apr 25, 2013 19:08:13 GMT -5
Very sorry to hear about your Dad. Mine is 92 and I just got him into assisted living, but he seems to be going quickly in the mental status, so not sure how long that will last.
We had him here at home for 3 months. It took its toll on us in many ways.
What part of the world do you live in? I don't drink beer, and probably couldn't find the time to get away to help you. Just curious.
Keep up your faith and keep chugging along on the car. You are in our prayers.
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Post by TexasEd on Apr 25, 2013 22:04:56 GMT -5
Thanks, I live in Cedar Park, I've seen you driving past the CP high school before.
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Post by sYc_Nova on Apr 26, 2013 16:23:50 GMT -5
OK, Yep I used to live off of Sunchase. Moved to Jarrell last August.
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Post by 65stang on Apr 26, 2013 22:04:11 GMT -5
I was wondering what was happening with the car. Sorry to hear about your Dad.
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Post by gm4ever on May 3, 2013 10:41:18 GMT -5
Just read this. Sorry about your Dad as well. I sure understand taking a break. All my best to you and yours.
-Mike
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Post by EP429 on May 6, 2013 9:45:41 GMT -5
Sorry about your dad.
I'm quite a skillful welder if you can put me behind a machine, I don't have one myself currently though. Let us know something, we'll make a night of it.
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Post by agshelby on May 6, 2013 10:12:07 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your Dad.
These mustang steering systems are easy to rebuild and I would recommend you do it yourself for the experience. Use American-made Moog parts and it will go quickly. I have rebuilt several of them and can do a manual system in an hour or so. The power steering system is bit more work due to the typical mess - but it appears that you have that part under control.
I suggest that you start off by getting a good degreaser and power wash the engine bay and steering components a few times before you start.
I have a power washer you can use and I don't live too far from you. I would be glad to help and even rebuild the steering for you - but I am currently on the injured list and cannot do that type of manual work. However, I am available to drink beer and observe.
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Post by TexasEd on May 6, 2013 11:39:30 GMT -5
Sorry about your dad. I'm quite a skillful welder if you can put me behind a machine, I don't have one myself currently though. Let us know something, we'll make a night of it. Sounds good. I saw someone else who said they had a welder to loan on here a while back. This weekend I did some more degreasing work on the block. The timing cover, block and heads are covered with power steering fluid. I used a degreaser and a paint scraper to get most of it off, but I'm not going to get too much farther until I can power wash it again. I also painted the passenger side of the engine bay. I'll put up some before and after pictures soon. |
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Post by TexasEd on May 6, 2013 11:43:57 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your Dad. These mustang steering systems are easy to rebuild and I would recommend you do it yourself for the experience. Use American-made Moog parts and it will go quickly. I have rebuilt several of them and can do a manual system in an hour or so. The power steering system is bit more work due to the typical mess - but it appears that you have that part under control. I suggest that you start off by getting a good degreaser and power wash the engine bay and steering components a few times before you start. I have a power washer you can use and I don't live too far from you. I would be glad to help and even rebuild the steering for you - but I am currently on the injured list and cannot do that type of manual work. However, I am available to drink beer and observe. Thanks, I have a power washer, just can't do it very well inside the garage unless I make a drop cloth system to channel the water out of the garage and not let it get into under the shelves, etc. I came up with an idea that might work. If you want to supervise rebuilding the power steering pump let me know. I have the parts to do it but I could use the supervision. I could also use a second set of eyes to go over my order sheet to make sure I have everything covered when I place the suspension order.Does anyone have any of the NPD power steering pump paint they don't need? I'd hate to place an order for just that one thing but might have to. |
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